Don't know what the staffing manager job will involve, but maybe you will have to work harder for your money here.

On the other hand, I get paid quite a lot for pissing around on internet forums most of the time.

I disagree with disappointed. Although there are apts in the area for upwards of 20,000 and more per month, he can get an exceptionally nice furnished apt easily for 10,000 and less.

Why does it matter if he will be here for more than 183 days per year?

Disappointed is contradicting himself saying you cant get an apt for that much and you'll need extra money for this and that but then he says you can save a lot of money. It's crap. You're monthly income will far exceed what you could possibly spend every month that the rest doesn't even matter.

Will you be renting an apt for just one person?

Exactly this is the matter, 2 or 3 br and really nice with everything will go easily to 12,000 RMB per month. The 183 days matter is based on the double taxation agreement between two countries. More than 183 days here in China, you have to pay tax here, otherwise in your home country.

And, no contradiction!!

Appartment: 12,000 RMB
Clubfee: 500 RMB
Tax, if China: 11,685 RMB

TOTAL: 23,185 RMB

Income: 55,000 RMB
Transport: 5,000 RMB
Housing: 10,000 RMB
TOTAL: 70,000 RMB

Balance: 46,815 RMB
Food, drinking: 10,000 RMB

Monthly surplus: 36,815 RMB

Then taking something for water, gas, electricity and buying some staff (all foreigners are doing this the first months, when entering China).

Easy savings per month: 30,000 RMB!

For me, this amount is a big saving per month! Maybe for you not! I only have discussed, that some matters maybe more expensive than expected and others are lower!

Guess U soon will read this:
Sweet, cute, curvy, beautiful, open-minded sexy Beijing Girl is seeking a Staffing Manager for Marriage!

Agreed!!

PS: For my part, I would prefer Mrs Trump!!

What US company pays that much money to a "staffing manager"? That doesn't sound like work that requires any special skills or education to me. I want to work for this company...before it goes belly-up because of too much overhead.

Jianwai Soho has a couple of very nice apartments - try to get one with a rooftop terrace! Quality is good although the developer's urge to have everything painted in white makes part of the buildings look shabby already. Make sure you have a good look at the position of the apartment because I've experienced that in some of them you feel over-exposed to those huge window facades of the surrounding towers and you'd have to close your curtains all day.

You might want to consider Season's Park, too - although it's not exactly CBD, you get there quite quickly and it's a fine neighbourhood. I would estimate the apartments' quality as slightly higher than Jianwai Soho.

@Dince: Unless I missed it in your earlier post, I think this begs the question of how the new offer rates against your current salary package from wherever you are moving from. If they are asking you to take a cut, then I would seriously think over if this is a decision you and your family wish to make. If it's above and beyond your current, then that is terrific. Hopefully you'll find BJ a place that you could easily adjust to. The current package you've shown is reasonable and worth consideration. You'll live comfortably on that package, but might still have to watch the long-term savings account a little depending on your financial needs for the future.

I'm looking for a job. Maybe you can help me :oops:

such a high salary is completely out of the chinese market.
it's clear the manager approving such an offer knows jack about china.
i see absolutely no reasons to pay a simple staffing manager 20x times the average chinese fee : where's the return on investment ?

said that, with 55.000 rmb month you'll be filthy rich in BJ so welcome to the 'jing.

A NORMAL expat lifestyle??? Is that how most of the foreigners here in beijing live?!?!? Geez... that's a LOT of freakin money.

And no I'm not a student. Right, I'm not an expat either... I'm one of those half-pats or whatever they're calling people like me.

I'd do almost anything for a year here for that salary. Any other positions open? Perhaps they'd like an on-site english teacher to help with the chinese employees? Teach them english.... correct their emails & notices....

It REALLY depends on where you live. For example in New York City, that is not considered a very high salary at all. It's OK, but not enough to save any money. If the person posting is living in a large/expensive city, $125k might just be the going rate for their position. Hell, property taxes alone on an average sized home in the NYC suburbs can approach US$20k/year. Then there's federal income tax, state income tax, city income tax, sales tax on practically everything, etc. One of my uni classmates is a relatively higher up HR person at a multinational financial institution in NYC (not the top of the totem pole, but reasonably close). She makes US$275k/year plus a pretty fat bonus (when the company makes money) and other nice fringe bennies. Plus a number of firms offer financial incentives to expats who are willing to be posted in developing countries.

Cheers,

heh, noted V, but NYC has the 5th highest cost of living of anywhere in the world. 125k might be chump change to someone in a loft in manhattan but if you could barely get by on 125k then a great deal of the populace wouldn't be able to live or work there.

take for example, a professorship. we can agree that it's a pretty decent profession that requires 8 years of post secondary education.

an assistant professorship at NYU is worth $38,801 - $67,092/yr. Source

sure it's not working for a financial behemoth like JP MorganChase like your friend does, but surely it's enough to get by comfortably in a city like new york, yes? just maybe not on the downtown east side

There must be a good reason the company needs an expat to do the job.

Presumably it's an ititial set-up phase or early in the life of the business and they want to make sure things are done according the corporate way. Or maybe there have been past problems which need some fires put out.

Then you have to bear in mind that in a lot of industries/countries Beijing is not seen as a dream posting. Obviously we're all here but those not familiar with Beijing can see it as high risk, difficult and unhealthy (and maybe they're right). There are many places perceived as more attractive. This is especially true the more experienced a manager they need as they more than likely will have family in tow.

So basically now you know you have enough to live in Beijing, the market you should be concerned about is your internal company one. Who else could do it, can you name your price etc? Also obviously if you intend to stay in the company or similar does this enhance your CV and if not are you OK about having a paid "adventure/holiday experience" for a year or two.

A few extra k on the salary and allowances might be a lot for you but will be lost in the overall expat package cost as far as the company is concerned. Depends on your corporate culture and size of peer group I suppose, but in my company you would be expected to haggle (Beijing is the capital of haggling after all!). Screw 'em for some more!